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 HW30S, HW35E or HW50? 
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Unread post HW30S, HW35E or HW50?
Greetings...
My question is this:
If i had to shoot from 10 meters, witch of the above you choose, in order to have the maximum precision possible??

I think that the HW30S would be better...no?!

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Agree. ;)

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Unread post Re: HW30S, HW35E or HW50?
The 30s, it's a cutie and with a HW or Williams peepsight would shoot almost as good as the old HW 55 series target rifles, loads of pleasurable fun.

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The HW35E, the old model with the 22" barrel. Your muzzle will be that much closer to the target! :D


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hi Adam...but isn't the HW35 to heavy?
Aditionaly the extra size of it will not put the center of mass far from you shoulder, and more difficult to hold the gun steady?

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I was joking really. The HW35 is a great gun though, and the E was legendary for its hugely long barrel.

Don't be put off by weight though. 10M match rifles are heavy by design because that improves steadiness in the aim.


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Ok! Then you prefer the HW30S?
You said that the rifles used in 10m where heavy by disign...Rigth!
But that extra mass is distributed equally in the gun or it is concentrated in the gunstock???
In the case of the HW35E that extra mass isn't equaly distributed in the gun?
Thanks for your attention guys! I'm a big fan of airguns, and i'm quite eager to learn more from experienced people.

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The HW35 is over 1kg heavier than the HW30S. In fact, the HW35 is even heavier than your HW95. The 30S is a real baby lightweight compared to the others, and is renowned for it's great accuracy. ;) ;) ;)

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You may find this interesting:- ;)
Pt.1.
http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/bl ... r7-part-1/

Pt.2
http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/bl ... r7-part-2/

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Ulisses Peleu wrote:
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You said that the rifles used in 10m where heavy by disign...Rigth!
But that extra mass is distributed equally in the gun or it is concentrated in the gunstock???

No it isn't contained in the stock, certainly not in the wooden stocked ones and even the alloy stocked versions are balanced forwards of the trigger guard. The Feinwerkbau P70FT i had was a real heavyweight, almost 14lbs with a scope on board. :)

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Hi little green man! :mrgreen:
Let's see if i understood correctly...
Those airguns used in the olympic games have their center of mass rigth in the suporting arm and not on the shoulder????
But that doesn't disturbs the esbility of the gun when doing the aiming?
I say that because of what i sense with my gun. As you know the HW95 is not made for 10m, and has some weigth (not the weigth of an olympic), and i feel the center of mass right i front of the trigger. After a few seconds i start to feel a little tired and trembling. The solution for that, could't be a transfer of the certer of mass for the stock???
I realise that these kind of questions haven't an easy answer.
Maybe big arms could be an alternative answer or a ligther guns like HW30S (if we think in spring guns).
One think is certain i'm getting " :luv: " for this little gun.

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Ulisses Peleu wrote:
Hi little green man! :mrgreen:
Let's see if i understood correctly...
Those airguns used in the olympic games have their center of mass rigth in the suporting arm and not on the shoulder????
But that doesn't disturbs the esbility of the gun when doing the aiming?
I say that because of what i sense with my gun. As you know the HW95 is not made for 10m, and has some weigth (not the weigth of an olympic), and i feel the center of mass right i front of the trigger. After a few seconds i start to feel a little tired and trembling. The solution for that, could't be a transfer of the certer of mass for the stock???
I realise that these kind of questions haven't an easy answer.
Maybe big arms could be an alternative answer or a ligther guns like HW30S (if we think in spring guns).
One think is certain i'm getting " :luv: " for this little gun.

Shooting accurately from the standing position takes a lot of practice and has nothing to do with the size of your arms, strength or having a lighter gun, if you see an acomplished target shooter taking aim the leading arm doesn't reach out to grip the forend of the rifle using muscle strength to support the weight. It rests against the side of the body with the elbow joint rested on the hip bone, the forearm is pulled back and the hand or fingers support the rifle infront of the trigger guard.
The rifle is held close to the body which has the feet placed in line to the target, the weight of the shooter is placed slightly more onto the leading leg and the hips rocked towards the target. This should put the weight of the rifle down the supporting forearm, down the hip and leg.
Difficult to explain and understand, i have some pics from a coaching manual and will post them when i get some spare time. :D

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:D
That would be a very nice idea!

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Hey Darth, just thought I'd mention that it's an awful long time since my hips did any form of rockin' ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:

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uk litehammer wrote:
Hey Darth, just thought I'd mention that it's an awful long time since my hips did any form of rockin' ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:

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